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11th-Apr-2008 05:29 pm
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After several hours of research and interviews, I have come to a rather startling decision. The City’s police force has no legitimate legal leg to stand on. Herein I will discuss the source of these findings, as well as the possible ramifications should this situation remain unchanged. While the presence of the City’s police force, hereafter referred to as the Police, is supported by the office of the Warden. The latter's function, nor its limitations, are defined. Wherein a force without a defined function or limitation has granted power, and wherein the Police perform functions within the City, Therefore the Police have no more right to detain an individual for an offense, than an individual does to committing it. Even if the actions taken by the aforementioned perpetrator are worthy of incarceration, how are they to know what is and is not acceptable behavior within the City?

This City does not currently posses any binding codices of law.

Any and all actions taken have no legal precedence nor justification, and as such, any action which the Police take can be considered the same as any action taken by any other entity within the City, be they the children of the orphanage, or the organization known as Millennium.

I hold that it is both necessary, and desired, that this City maintain a police force. But such a force must have set limits to its powers, as well as publicize what is, and is not, acceptable behavior within the boundaries of the City. The only group which will have any meaningful say in what is and is not on these codices is us, the citizens of this city. I therefore say that either the Warden holds a meeting open to all citizens in which we may discuss the laws of the city, or the police force be disbanded for fear that it be used against the people.

[OOC: For those of you wondering why Blitza is suddenly interested in Politics? No Laws = it's not illegal to break contracts = Blitza can't sue people that break the rules he so carefully lays out. ]
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11th-Apr-2008 11:19 pm (UTC)
I didn't even know that the City didn't have any laws.. It was smart of you to catch that.

The only problem I can see is that it will probably be really hard for all of the citizens to agree on accepted rules. The City is full of such a huge variety of people with really different morals of what is right and wrong.

Edited at 2008-04-11 11:20 pm (UTC)
11th-Apr-2008 11:26 pm (UTC)
Then we are better set to allow a select few to decide what is right and wrong and force those views upon us?
11th-Apr-2008 11:27 pm (UTC)
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it might take a long time for everyone to agree on a set of rules. Maybe we should all just vote.
11th-Apr-2008 11:29 pm (UTC)
The means through which the codices are determined should be one that allows all to equally influence them. Voting does seem the most expedient course of action, though a system should be developed to expedite the process.
12th-Apr-2008 12:17 am (UTC)
Hmf. Rules.
12th-Apr-2008 12:38 am (UTC)
You would prefer that the police be allowed to do whatever they want?
12th-Apr-2008 12:39 am (UTC)
They would be allowed to do what they want as much as everyone else could, like you said.
12th-Apr-2008 12:46 am (UTC)
And for those unable to protect themselves from the desires and wills of others?
12th-Apr-2008 12:47 am (UTC)
It's survival of the fittest.

I'm not opposed to there being rules. But it doesn't mean I have to pay attention to them.
12th-Apr-2008 12:48 am (UTC)
Then when the organization working under the rule of the Major decides they are done waiting and attack the city, you are going to accept the resulting destruction?
12th-Apr-2008 12:54 am (UTC)
The Major?

It just means they're powerful enough.

Maybe making rules are the means that some use to survive. Hm.
12th-Apr-2008 02:39 am (UTC)
Shall I introduce myself, Herr Blitza?

It would be rude not to. Greetings.

I am the Major.
12th-Apr-2008 12:33 am (UTC)
... you're not really helping here.
12th-Apr-2008 12:37 am (UTC)
I maintain that without proper codices the current police force is nothing more than, or less than, any other organization.
12th-Apr-2008 12:52 am (UTC)
The current police force is committed to keeping the moral citizens of the city safe.
12th-Apr-2008 12:59 am (UTC)
And it is a goal which many in the city would support, but who decides what they may or may not do, and to whom? Is it really sound for the police to punish someone for doing what they do not consider wrong?
12th-Apr-2008 01:56 am (UTC)
You are... hmph. And why would a goblin care about codes of law?
12th-Apr-2008 02:02 am (UTC)
As a citizen of the City, I find the lack of laws to be very disturbing. What is to protect me from others in the city?
12th-Apr-2008 02:17 am (UTC)
Why protect a rodent from jackals? Do you really think the deities care for your well-being?
12th-Apr-2008 02:19 am (UTC)
Protection from the beings that govern this place is, at best, limited. I seek, instead, protection from other citizens.
12th-Apr-2008 02:24 am (UTC)
And you honestly believe a set of laws written on paper will protect you? Or even a force of humans? Goblins are as foolish as ever I see.
12th-Apr-2008 02:28 am (UTC)
I have no belief that the laws themselves will protect me, but if an organization exist which will be protecting society, as it does already, then such an organization should have regulations detailing what is and is not permitted within the city.
12th-Apr-2008 03:07 pm (UTC)
Impressive.

I find myself to be in full agreement, Mr. Airflyer, although I suspect your motivations to be less than... pure.

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I would strongly suggest that you, along with a number of likeminded and concerned citizens, draw up some rudimentary guidelines for the current Warden's perusal.
12th-Apr-2008 06:08 pm (UTC) - Private
Nominating yourself Mr. Vetinari?
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